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 Post subject: NA JOURNAL
PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 8:06 pm 
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hola dudes. didn't know whether to put this in random scriblles or general, if its in the wrong location please fill free to move. keep the order and whatnot.

this should be pretty self explanatory, we do this in my English class, every morning when we come in theirs one on the board waiting for us and we share our opinions on it. I have a pretty kool english class so we have some very entertaining responses from my fellow peers. I thought it would fun to bring the same excitement here.

ok, journal 101 for all you slow folk. Journal topics can be a very thought provoking question, or usually some interesting news article that sparks up a lot of controversy and people just share their opinions on the matter. EX: The Virginia Tech. tragedy.

we can have a new topic every sunday, thats once a week to give people time to actually make it to a comp in their buisy lives and reply to the thing. It also doesn't have to be just me spitting out these topics, its open to all, sort of like a first come first serve sort of thing. you have a topic you would like to share just post it the next sunday. simple.

i'm really hoping this spurs off into a huge book we can all just look back on, ok, here we go:

Do You think It's right for Abortion to be legalized? tell your beliefs with support for your opinion.

((wow...feel like a real teacher..>.>...eew.))

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 Post subject: Re: NA JOURNAL
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 4:36 pm 
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I don’t think its right, your killing a baby, and not just any baby YOUR baby! That little child could be the start of something great for our nation, and if not the nation the baby could do something for you, you might not get to experience what joy a child brings to a person! I don’t know what my life might be like if my niece (Alora to some of you that know her) had been KILLED! her mother was thinking about having it done because she thought having a baby would be too much of a hassle (she was 18 at the time) and was driving to the clinic to kill my sweet, smart, kind, loving niece. When she pulled off the side of the road, thinking about the life that she was going to erase, all the joy and happiness that would come with the child along with the pain too, and found that the good over came the bad and to this day she is so thankful for letting the child live...I don’t know what I would do with out Alora, she lives with me and I think of her as a little sister, if Star (her mom) would of went though with the Abortion I wouldn't of been able to cope with many things that have happened in my life! Although She can be a royal pain in the butt some times...I'm overjoyed to have her with me! if some women would just give a little thought to a matter as big as another persons life then the world would be a different place...just think about it this way...would you want a say in if you live or die? If your mother was going to get an Abortion? Think about all the people you've affected. All the lives you've touched just by living. Or think about your best friend...where would you be with out that person? What if their mom aborted them? I just don’t understand why people do it...and if it’s because you didn't 'plan' it? if your 'too young’. Then you shouldn't of had sex in the first place! That’s why you wait... but that’s getting into another topic. Also if you’re getting an Abortion just because your to young or its unplanned don’t Abort the baby!! At least give it a chance at life and put it up for adoption.

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thats my view and I feel very stong about it. and I do think thats the most I've ever written in one post O.o lol

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 Post subject: Re: NA JOURNAL
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 8:58 pm 
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I, personally, do think abortions should be legalized here and everywhere else. I believe that accidents happen, and I'd rather see one unborn babies future killed than the lives of two people who could go on to do great things brought down by the struggle to raise a baby at a young age. Now, I also do believe that some kind of trial should be done to decide if a person actually could raise a baby and are just trying to be irresponsible. So yes, I'm pro-abortion when it comes to helping a young couple continue with their lives. Also, think about it like this. What if a girl was raped and impregnated. Should she be forced to give birth to that child and care for it, only to be reminded of (probably) the most traumatizing experience of her life? I don't think so. I'm pro-abortion in certain cases, but anti-abortion in others. But also, you'll ask, as Nova did, why not just give birth to the child and put it up for adoption? Well, think of how that would affect the child. In 2000, there were 501,000 foster children. Of these, only 127,000 were able to be adopted, and of these 127,000, only 51,000 were actually adopted. So what's that say for the rest of the children? I'd rather save the child the life they would most likely have like that. Loneliness, regret, neglect, wondering what's wrong with you, growing up not knowing your parents, and if you do get adopted, hopping from foster home to foster home, not having a steady place to live... I wouldn't want to force a child to endure that.

But I went off into a completely different subject... and I agree with Nova, I think that's the most I've ever typed in one post. XD

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I whole-heartedly believe that I couldn't have said it any better than Nova and Arc have. Though I do wonder how different my life would be if I DID have two older siblings, and I also wonder how different my brother would be if he was a middle child. Well I'll never find out because of abortions, but I'm just glad that even though I have one less sibling. And that even though I never get to see any of my cousins, even though most of them are a lot younger than me. That I have you all as part of an extensive surrogate family, I honestly wouldn't be the same, and I wouldn't still be here if it weren't for you all. Arigato : ) That was offtopic a bit but true enough. I once again agree with Nova and Arc in this case.

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 Post subject: Re: NA JOURNAL
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Sorry dudes, I was sort of off on the journals last week, my apologies. I didn't even get to post my own view T.T....owell, the world keeps spinnin.

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What age do you think is the right age to have "sexual relations", and how do you know when its time?

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 Post subject: Re: NA JOURNAL
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guess I'm up this time. Now I know that it's a bit personal to ask this question, but the answer's gotta be told. Not being a virgin myself I do feel a bit hypocritical about voicing my opinion though. First off I DONT believe a 7th grader should be losing her virginity during her first semester in junior high school, and I also dont believe a 21 year old man should have sex with a 15 year old girl. To me I dont believe there's a fundamental, set in stone date or age that everyone is ready to have sex. Sex is a grown up thing. I dont think anyone should ever think about having sex until they can handle the misguided feeling and assumptions you can have of a person after they've had sex or you've had sex with them.

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My view is simple enough in this. I don't think there is a "Set date" that it's okay for someone to have sex. I mean, everyone is different, no one matures at the same rate or at the same time. So how can you try to set everyone on a single age limit? I agree with the consent ages set in the states, however. If only to help keep some people from making what could be a mistake. So I don't think there is a set age that it's alright for everyone to have sex.

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wow, didn't expect the replies to be so...whats the word i'm lookin for..."non judgmental" ??

I don't think the when and where is so important, but more of the "who". People get so caught up in planning it to be "perfect", setting up all of these different arrangements and whatnot when three years from now you don't even remember all of that crap but only who it was with. Or, you'll have this mindset of wanting to loose it after a certain age. abstinence is kool and all (i could never do it) but if your with a really cool guy/girl who you completely trust, but just because that person came a bit earlier than expected you take them for granted. Then you end up loosing it to someone in college who's a complete jack@$$ and or bimbo, when all the time you wish you would of lost it to that guy/girl in high school who you felt really comfortable with and will remember for a lifetime. As long as its with someone you trust, and fill comfortable with everything else shouldn't matter as much. (excluding sagitory rape laws ofcourse :mrgreen: )

as my good freinds arcy and duama put it, there's no set age for these kind of things. everyone sort of handles it on their own time. stop putting it on a pedistool.(famous 40yr old virgin quote)

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 Post subject: Re: NA JOURNAL
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That time of the week again, oh, and before I lay down the topic. I never noticed those pics you put of alora nova-dude. If I didn't know any better, I'd say she was human.ANYhoo.

In your opinion, who's more deceptive? males or females?? explain.

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Women hands down. Women will toy with a persons mind so much that they will begin to think that what theyare doing is because it is what they want but in fact it is what that woman wants. They do run how things work weither us guys want to admit it or not. They will use there looks to make a guy feel special, but in realtiy they are using that guy for there own needs, then when she is done with him she will toss him aside like a three week old dipper. Women will run people's lives without the person knowing it. They will quilt you into doing things they want when it isn't even that important to them they just want the satisfaction of getting what they want. Some of you may think the is a bit bias because i am a guy. But this next week look at all the pretty girls at your school and if they don't seem to be the most intelegent, watch them. They will be using the nerdy person in the class. Women will also manipulate each other, and not just the opposite sex.

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 Post subject: Re: NA JOURNAL
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Neither. It's not the gender, it's the person. Some guys can be just as, and possibly more so, deceptive than some girls and vice-versa.

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I get where you're coming from Dua-kun, but way to shoot down the non-existant self-esteem. >.< Anywho, I believe that it really is depending on the person. What Dua-kun raged about, CAN be true for SOME women. NOT all of them. =.= It's also the same for men. I mean how many times has your friend that's a girl cried about heartbreak, because a dude just used her for sex, for an event, to make himself look better. What about all the dudes that are players and that are sleeping with three best friends at the same time without them knowing about it? What about that, huh? There is equal deception on the behalf of both sexes. End of story.

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 Post subject: Re: NA JOURNAL
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Arcy wrote:
Neither. It's not the gender, it's the person. Some guys can be just as, and possibly more so, deceptive than some girls and vice-versa.


kool beans acry-dude, we should have like a point system for this thing or somethin. cheating, deceit, lieing, its not a "gender" thing, its a "human" thing. maybe through personal experiences it would seem one outweighs the other based on people you've met, but the grass is pretty much the same crappy shade of green on both sides. the two sides just have different ways of going about their treachery.

In my oppinon, guys lie the most but females tell the biggest lies. a guys lie is like, "I was at kenny's house", or, "nah, I was at home all day". its sort of like playing basketball with a retarded kid then calling double dribble, some stuff you gotta just let slide. but a females lie is something like..."its yo baby". :| not kool dude :| you guys watch Maurie, do the math.

((I'm gonna be out for a little while, I'll still try to make some sweep throughs just for mod duties and crap. someone continue with a new journal topic, I'm in a rush and can't think of one right now. later dudes ;) ))

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Well, one we had to do the other day was pretty simple, but still it got a lot of discussion.

What does the word "love" mean to you?

I'll post mine later.

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Wow, this thread has been going on without my input? How can you guys live with yourselves without my insight into these issues? For shame.

Anyway, I'm going to catch up on what I've missed.

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Do You think It's right for Abortion to be legalized? tell your beliefs with support for your opinion.

My opinion; there is no reason why abortion shouldn't be legal.

I know it's an overused word when applied to the subject, but what it comes down to is choice, and I think that when it comes to such a personal subject as abortion, that choice should always be available to those who need it. It is fine to morally object to abortion, but you cannot allow yourself to put down those women who choose to have them. Either way, it is their decision, they made it on their own terms and came to their conclusion. The fault that a lot of anti-abortionists have is in the assumption that abortion is always the easy or simple answer, but the girls that I know who have had abortions have all told me that, for better or worse, they thought long and hard about the decision. They were far more informed upon the subject than anyone I have ever met who held an equally strong opinion on abortion, and their opinions should not be dismissed as just the morally reprehensible actions of someone incapable of knowing what is best for themselves or the child they had inside of them.

Aside from this, life in the womb is debatable as a subject in itself. Calling abotion "murder" is no different to calling masturbation "genocide" if you believe that life is defined before birth. Both phoetuses, embryos, sperm and eggs show all the same signs of life as each other, and it is a little short-sighted to value one over the other just because it happens to be slightly more human in shape. Believing abortion is wrong is perfectly fine, but to call the women who have abortions "murderers", or to wish for abortion to be illegal shows nothing more than a lack of consideration toward the issue and a dismissive nature of objective opinions. The people who matter are those who have to make the choice, and it should be their choice to make regardless of the opinions of others. Life is defined by individuals, not by a singular idea. And the whole idea of "if you aren't ready to raise a child then you shouldn't of had sex" is an extremely naive, narrow-minded view that does not really have any basis in reality. It is unfair and far too simplistic, completely unallowing for personal experience and the whole spectrum of human emotion.

And all of this is still neglecting the main reason why abortion is legal: because even if it were illegal, women who want to have them will still have them. Back before abortion was legal in England, thousands of women would die per year because of illegal back-alley abortions. The legalization not only allowed these women access to the service, but also allowed it to be properly funded and researched, saving thousands of lives.

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What age do you think is the right age to have "sexual relations", and how do you know when its time?

Now this is a hard one, because there is no real set standard for when a person is "ready".

Personally, I would use the age of accountability as a good starting point. The age of sixteen, as it is an age that most start on the path to physical and sexual development, is also the point at which a person becomes more responsible for their decisions in life. However, this doesn't mean that a person magically becomes more responsible overnight on their 16th birthday, or that a 16 year old is in some way more prepared for sex than a 15 year old. It is merely a rough guideline.

I was actually an early bloomer in terms of puberty, and I found myself obssessed with sex throughout my teens. However, I did not actually have sex for the first time until the end of my nineteenth year (yeah, yeah, I'm pathetic). This was not due to personal choice, as I believed I was ready for sex many years ago. However, I look back upon that time and I'm glad that I did not act upon (or, to be more accurate, get the chance to act upon...) those urges, partly because I feel that I have met the right person, and partly because I retrospectively believe that I was not yet mature enough to understand it or the possible consequences of it.

At the end of the day, this is another question that really varies from person to person. Just because I believe I was not prepared for sex until I was in my late teens does not mean that I believe that is when all teenagers should wait beforehand. Sex as an act is introspective, free to be viewed as expression, physical necessity or even just recreation. In truth, it can serve all of these functions, and it really depends on educating yourself upon all three as early as you can. The sooner you know, the sooner you are ready - even if you do end up regretting it later in life.

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In your opinion, who's more deceptive? males or females?? explain.

Women, definitely.

To quote Maynard James Keenan, lead singer of Tool:
"Today's woman puts on wigs, fake eyelashes, false fingernails, sixteen pounds of assorted make-up/shadows/blushes/creams, living bras, various pads that would make a linebacker envious, has implants and assorted other surgeries, then complains that she cannot find a "real" man."

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What does the word "love" mean to you?

Damn, you might as well ask me what the Universe is.

Hmm, might have to come back to this one at some point (i.e when it is not 2:48 in the morning...).


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